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that appears on your screen. >>> in the spotlight tonight, the boehner rule that is no longer a rule. the boehner rule, like the rule before it said the republican speaker would not allow a vote on any bill that does not have a support of the majority of house republican, not all house republicans, but a majority. boehner first broke that rule on new year's day when he allowed a vote to avert the fiscal curb and raise the top income tax rate. the fiscal cliff deal passed the house, 257 to 167 with only 85 republicans voting for it. and 151 republicans voting against it. boehner broke his rule again tonight when he allowed a vote on a $51 billion hurricane relief package to sandy. the bill passed the house, with just 49 republicans voting for it and 179 republicans voting against hit. today, chuck todd asked if the boehner rule will apply to the debt ceiling. >> if there is not a majority in the house republican conference to raise the debt limit but there is a majority in the house of representatives to raise a clean debt limit, would the leadership be willing to do that? >> you know
democrats to vote in favor of it. it marks the second time now that house speaker john boehner has broken his own rule, the boehner rule, model on the hastert rule. said the speaker would not bring any bill to the floor for a vote that does not have the support of a majority of his conference, a majority of the majority, it's known as. but last night, just about 20% of the republican conference voted for the bill. the vote split the leadership, majority leader eric cantor, majority whip mccarthy voted for the bill. boehner first broke his rule on new year's day when he allowed a vote to avert the fiscal cliff on taxes. apparently there's an addendum to the boehner rule. the majority of the majority, unless the country is on the verge of a tax crisis, or chris christie has access the to a megaphone. christie made sure this week that republicans knew he would use it. >> and i'll say again, new jersey does not expect anything more than what was done for louisiana and alabama and mississippi and if they want to make new rules about disasters, they picked the wrong state to make the new rules
. >> and in his press conference, president obama quoted speaker john boehner from 2011. >> that would be a financial disaster, not only for our country but for the worldwide economy. i don't think it is a question that is even on the table. >> and the last question of his press conference, the president was asked if he may be more successful with some of the nuts you just heard from if he spent more quality time with them. >> you and your staff are too insular, that you don't socialize enough. >> this, of course, is one of the great myths of governing, that intractable problems, political problems, can somehow be solved over a card game and a couple of drinks. that has never, ever been the case nor will it ever be the case. >> i like speaker boehner personally. and you know, when we went out and played golf we had a great time. but that didn't get a deal done in 2011. >> the president actually had to remind the media that congressional behavior is the result of democracy. >> now if the american people feel strongly about these issues and they push hard and they reward, or don't reward
. although the u.s. senate acted last month on sandy relief, it has taken john boehner's republican-controlled house 78 days since the storm to pass this bill responding to the storm. in the end, on the republican side, it ended up being a grudging vote for sandy relief. republicans voted against sandy relief by a 3-1 margin. the bill was only able to pass because a minority of republicans joined with democrats to get it done in the house. even though the senate already passed its version of hurricane sandy relief last year, last month, the senate bill has to be redone because it took the house so long to get their side of it done. the senate is expected to get their side done again shortly. and then the president says he will sign the measure into law. >>> and tonight, in further breaking news, as slow as house republicans were to act in response to hurricane sandy, tonight's other major news is about how fast new york state was able to move to respond to a different kind of disaster. tonight one month and one day after the mass shooting at sandy hook elementary school in newtown,
boehner has not been to one yet. mitch mcconnell we want to one. is that a fair assessment that the president is not making the social connections he needs when it seems that the right is turning him down. >> no question. i think some democrats have probably told me in the president's first term that he was somewhat antisocial. look, this is a good thing and a bad thing. he very much is a family person, he enjoys being around his nuclear family, and that's admirable. however, you are the president. part of your job is to reach phone across the aisles to develop close relationships, but also with members of your own party. i think even members of his own party would say this president has a bit of coolness about him, a bit of distance action and i think that hurt him when it came to certain policy initiatives, and quite frankly a lot of people on the right said i don't think necessarily think what the president is thinking. i'm not sure exactly sure what position i should say. that was pretty much a common known factor, if you will here in washington, d.c., and hopefully tha
that the president's proposals are rolling in. the speaker john boehner said they will review the republicans and warned good intentions do not necessarily make good laws. the senator said president obama is abusing his power with the executive orders and the senate will hold the first post new town committee in two weeks. we know how the nra feels before the president took the mike, the powerful gun lobby took a strike infuriating straightics with an ad that infolks his daughters. >> the president's kids more important than yours? why is he skeptical about armed security when his kids are protected by armed guards in their school. >> the white house called that ad repugnant and cowardly. we kick things off with peter alexander outside the white house. run down the major takeaways from the president in the executive orders he issued. >> you played the best highlights from today's event, but this was an emotional heart felt appeal from the president encouraging anybody paying attention across america to reach out directly to their congress people, saying congress must act on this issue. you ra
congress. >> horrible numbers for congress. >> a pitiful 14%. >> pretty bad numbers on john boehner's report card. >> the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. >> i don't see that as a winner for them. >> don't fight battles you can't win. >> it is a troubled time for the party. >> let's stop for a second. >> let's make clear decisions. >> the republican strategy. >> stop talking about rape. >> don't fight battles you can't win. >> it is a troubled time for the party, get something done. >> we have to be the party of new solutions, we're not just going to be the party of no. >> it is groundhog day. >> the conservatives, the retreat, we've come a long way since. >> i'm ezra klein in for lawrence o'donnell, one of the great moments, when redford having just won the election, sits down on the bed taking it all in. the next few words are not just to ever film junky, pretty much to every political candidate. >> what do we do now? >> what do we do now? that is always the question, what do you do now when you have to govern? but it is not just a question that affects winners, sometimes losers
for it. house speaker john boehner also ignored his obligation to pay the nation's bills and also complained about spending. the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. they speak so confident, don't they? it's almost as if they forgot all about the spending cuts the president already gave them over a year ago. well, let's try to help them figure it out a little bit with a little visual and audio assistance. >> over the past two years i've signed into law about $1.4 trillion in spending cuts. two weeks ago, i signed into law more than $600 billion into new revenue, by making sure the wealthiest americans begin to pay their fair share. when you add the money that will save in interest payments on the debt, all together that adds up to a total of about $2.5 trillion in deficit reduction over the past two years. not counting the $400 billion already saved from winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. so we've made progress. >> didn't president clinton say it was all about arithmetic? republicans can posture
mitch mcconnell attend and house speaker john boehner declined each and every time. it's interesting, he's not against attending state dinners. >> can't smoke and don't serve merlot. >> there's president bush, attending a state dinner during the bush presidency. >> he had no problem going when he liked who was in the white house, just had a problem going when it was president barack obama, it appears. >> can we show this graphic. mitch mcconnell went. let's show it. it was a good one. the germans went. they love their sauerkraut. >> they were invited to a screening of "lincoln," apparently at the very last minute -- >> nobody's perfect. >> i would think when the president invites you to see a movie at the white house, you might want to go. maybe if you were disagreeable in nature, not fun and quite frankly not interested in getting anywhere on spending, maybe you would decline. look at the president. why don't i play that sound bite again, no matter what you think of his ideologically, joe, wouldn't you want to have a beer with that guy or a beer with mitch mcconnell. >> you keep interru
republicans elected a white house screening of "lincoln" last month. had mitch mcconnell, john boehner, lamar alexander attended, they were all invited, they would have joined not only nancy pelosi, harry reid but steven spielberg, tommy lee jones. as tip o'neill famously said about his political foe, ronald reagan, love the sinner. hate the sin. when president reagan would invite the speaker, tip o'neill over to the white house for drinks and raise a glass to one another. there's no shortage of parties planned around inauguration 2013. here is hoping it spills over to the next four years and both sides of the aisle make a move to be more social and more civil. and, hence, more productive. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz, starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome "the ed show" from new york. republicans are raising the white flag. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. >> the republican game of chicken is over. eric cantore proposes a three-mo
of the president of the united states. unfortunately, there's no one who will do that. not speaker john boehner, not mitch mcconnell, not everyone mitt romney who was the party for the presidency. >> now, jonathan, when you look at this, the birther movement hasn't gone anywhere. they're still going strong. there's been 100 court cases filed to prevent the inauguration ceremony monday siting obama's over-seas birth. and i wonder where that gop base got the idea from that the president wasn't born here. it certainly wasn't just don trump. look at this. >> no one's ever asked to see my birth certificate. they know that this is the place that we were born and raised. >> all i can tell you is ha the general consensus is that he has produced a birth certificate. the question is is it legitimate? >> this is the easiest problem to solve. all the president has to do is show it. >> so why is this important? because if you dehumanize the president, if you made him un-american, you've made him other, then you don't deal with him because he's not american, he's not really le jit. if you're constituents wit
is john boehner. he was last seen in washington when he was re-elected speaker of the house. there are reports he and the house gop are at an annual retreat in williamsburg, yet conservatives like hugh hewitt are calling him a milk carton republican because he's gone missing on several very important debates. do you know where he is? >> you know, i have not personally seen this man, john boehner, but i have heard of him. i know who he is vaguely. i think he's the guy that had the most miserable, unpleasant speakership in the history of the republic, and it was because he had these conservative freshmen who came in all excited to undo the government, and they didn't understand that as speaker his job is to not undo the government. so he's had this problem where he can't please conservatives like hugh hewitt because they want him to champion real conservative principles but he can't get re-elected in his district, and republicans can't win on a national level if they champion those same values. i think right now boehner has chosen to just go quiet and sort of back away from th
boehner, is putting forward a proposal that increases the debt limit without an equal amount of spending cuts. that was his long-held position a and he is abandoning that position, and saying that he will increase the debt ceiling for a period of three months and in that timeframe, the congress has to come up with a budget and that is a win from the democrats standpoint, but they do not like the idea of increasing the debt limit in increments. the question is, if it gets passed will it force both sides to come to the table on spending cuts within a matter of months when they take on the issue on of the budget and then of course, the sequester. that is the big question mark, you heard nancy pelosi saying she does not like the idea and i have spoke to republicans that do not like the idea of withholding their pay if they do not get a budget passed. peter king of new york said it's like bribery. so, while aides on the hill are saying they feel confident that this package package will make it through both chambers, we've to wait to see how it plays out. it's a victory on the democrat's stand
to themselves or to others. >> what path do you see forward? speaker john boehner has said the senate needs to act first on this gun legislation, but senator harry reid is not going to take the lead, he's going too leave it to others. he's concerned about constituents from more moderate states, more rural states, so how does this get moved forward? >> i did hear senator harry reid's comments that he was going to bring up things only that he could get through the house. i would hope that senator harry reid would bring lettingation to the floor of the senate. i hope speaker boehner will allow some of these measures to come to the floor. in the past he has said he would only bring things to the floor that had a majority of his majority. but just recently, we did see speaker boehner bring the fiscal cliff measure to the floor that didn't have the joerts of his republican support. he also brought the sandy relief aid bill to the floor that didn't have the majority of the republicans, but it did have bipartisan majority support, both on the fiscal cliff issue and the sandy issue. so if the speake
and say enough of this. not speaker boehner, not mitch mcconnell, not eric cantor, kevin mccarthy. there's no one of stature within the republican party who is willing to stand up and say enough. the only person i remember really saying so in a direct fashion was former utah governor, former china ambassador jon huntsman. >> guys, we have to leave it there, although i guess i just want to say, i know, hopefully we will all be inspired to try to be one america again with the president's message on monday during the inauguration. thank you, toure. thank you, jonathan capehart. >> thanks. >> thank you. >>> next, more from the sunny gop retreat in williamsburg. stay with us. >> a majority of americans agree with us on this. and by the way, so did ronald reagan. >> oh, take a cheap shot at ronald reagan. what are you trying to do? impress jodie foster? [ coughs ] shh! [ coughs ] shh! [ breathes deeply, wind blows ] this feels cool. [ male announcer ] halls. let the cool in. the battle of bataan, 1942. [ all ] fort benning, georgia, in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often hand
demanding the senate pass a budget really doesn't do anything. it also violates the so-called boehner rule, which requires any bill to have cuts equal to the rise in the debt ceiling. well, republicans are making up for this by saying congress will get paid -- will not get paid unless the senate passes a budget. let's investigate this a little bit. even republican congressman darryl issa knows it's a violation of the 27th amendment not to pay congress. when told about the plan, issa said that's unconstitutional. he wants a paycheck. now republicans are claiming the plan will just withhold pay for -- from congress. so all of them will get paid no matter what. what is it? it's just a big sham. it's just a big game. house democratic leader nancy pelosi rejected the plan as a gimmick. she's correct. this gimmick is the only thing republicans have up their sleeves right now. john boehner told everyone two years ago the country would not default on its debt. >> do you agree with administration officials and other economists that defaulting on the full faith and credit of the united states would
us on the brink in the immediate future. >> john boehner has been tweeting out a picture that i think is interesting, and writing among other things, will senate democrats ever pass a budget. in the four years since senate democrats passed a budget, you could make 179 round trips to the moon. at the same time, chuck schumer says the senate is going to pass a budget so andy, are the democrats going to call the republicans' bluff? >> well, the question that i want to know and what will be playing out this week is whether john boehner's plan, this is a gamble for house speaker john boehner. there are members of the republican caucus in the house who don't want to raise the debt ceiling at all and don't even think a three-month extension of the debt ceiling as a ploy to put the political pressure on the senate democrats to pass a budget, they may not even vote for this. so he has his work cut out for him to make sure that his caucus or at least the vast majority of it is on board for this. and for the senate democrats, if this three-month extension passes, it does move the spotlight, it d
ceiling brsh according to speaker boehner, the ends justify the means. in a statement yesterday, boehner asserted the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real, but so, too, are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved. it was a response to this stern warning from the president on monday. >> they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well being of the american people is not leveraged to be used. >> if the tenor of the president's last press conference of his first term is any indication about what he expects in his second term, prepare for a bond-style showdown as the government barrels towards its borrowing limit. that said, there might exist a solution that would allow congress to do what it does best, which is to say nothing at all, and still save the economy. this do nothing approach was floated by senate minority leader mitch mcconnell in 2011, and president obama gave it a hat tip yesterday. >> they want to put the responsibility on me to raise the debt ceiling, i'm happy to take it.
are they able to bring the economy down. will john boehner at the end of the day have to do what he did with the tax bill, which is basically cede control of the house more or less to the democrats and have most of his party vote against something but allow a vote to come up that will let democrats and nancy pelosi yet again rescue the day. >> okay, jared. i want to play you something the president said on monday. you referenced it yourself. take a listen. >> they will not collect or ransom an exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. >> jared, i put it to you, do they not realize this fight isn't just hurting the economy. it's also helping this president look like the only grown-up in washington. >> i don't think they're calculus on this stuff is as rational as your question suggests, of course. but, again, if you actually get out of this beltway, and i try to do it as much as possible, and talk to people, the question i consistently get is why doesn't washington really care about the problems that we fac
boehner really breaking his own rule and bringing it to a vote despite little republican support. do you think that that signals a new step, a new approach from john boehner as speaker? >> well, we do have some crises that we're going to have to face, the debt ceiling, we're going to have to deal with sequestration as well as the concurrent resolution, and i'm convinced that in order to get something moving forward in a positive way, that speaker boehner's going to have to release republicans from just being bound to the party and do what's best for the country. so i hope this is a breakthrough. as for having this as a victory, if it's a victory for anything, it's a victory for our country. people can go to sleep at night knowing that god forbid if they have a catastrophe in their country, they may not be able to depend on the local people to come forward or the states, but they can depend on their congress to be there as historically we have always been. this is the first time we have had any type of controversy in getting it done, but late, delayed, yes, but was it done, you bet your l
't want it passed compromised john boehner in getting a better deal for their side. i think it's the same thing here. when you have wayne la pierre and david keene saying these crazy things, it compromises the negotiating position of people who do have an argument against certain restrictions. >> do you agree with that, meagan? >> i think there's a great theory called the baptist and -- where you have on the one hand the bootleggers love prohibition because it's great for business, and the baptists like prohibition because they're idealogically against it. >> it's great for your business. >> for the nra, look, this is how they fundraise. i guarantee that letter brought money pouring in. if you have seen what has happened to the gun market since newtown, you can't get high capacity magazines for love or money. i have not tested this personally, but i hear. guns are flying off the shelves. it's true that they don't do themselves a lot of good with the american public. >> maybe with their own party. that's -- business is different -- i mean, if you are listening to glen's point, and i only s
for superstorm sandy. the relief package was passed by the senate even though house speaker john boehner hadn't brought it up for a vote. in fact, the senate passage helped to put pressure on the house. sandy relief passed in the house with a minority of republican votes and almost every democrat. speaker boehner would not have brought the bill to the floor if it hadn't already been passed in the senate. there was similar pressure with the fiscal cliff deal. it passed in the senate first. then boehner was forced to bring it to the floor for a vote and the house, even though only a minority of republicans supported it. today senator majority leader harry reid seemed to clarify his position somewhat. in a statement he said, "i am committed to ensuring the senate will consider legislation that addresses gun violence and other aspects of violence in our society early this year. all options should be on the table." well, that sounds a little bit better. but there should be no hedging on this issue whatsoever. especially from democrats. because if they side with the president of the united states t
's a reaction from speaker boehner's office. house committees of jurisdiction will review these recommendations and if the senate passes a bill, we will also take a look at that. what's your response to that? is that passing the buck? >> there's plenty of passing the buck that goes on. there is an effort to create pressure in the house. and i believe we can force a vote on the house floor, if necessary. and, again, the american people will be a critical part of that effort. >> universal background checks. overwhelming support for that. is that a good start for congress in your opinion? >> it is probably the best thing we can do at this particular point in time. when 40% of the guns that are purchased in this country are not subject to a background check, it absolutely floors the american people. even members of the nra, when they were polled recently, were under the impression that everyone has a criminal background check. so there are many thousands upon thousands of people in this country who illegally have guns because there isn't a universal background check. >> congresswoman, appreciate yo
party. this is not something you hear from congressional leaders like speaker boehner or senate leader mitch mcconnell. this is something that's coming very much from the right. but it does underscore the problem that president obama is going to have and that is that no matter what kind of ground swell he puts forward from the grass roots, it's going to be very difficult to convince house that's controlled by republicans that they need to move on this. what he would need to do is he needs to move those moderate republicans and we saw this happening with the sandy aid where he didn't put the sandy relief bill on the floor, moderate republicans like peter king from new york, other atlanta -- the speaker brought that up very quickly without the support of the entire caucus. he broke what we call here in washington the hastert rule, we need a majority of the majority to bring something forward. he would need to do something with guns, and without moderate republicans calling on the speaker to bring something to the floor, it's going to be very difficult for the speaker in leadership to hav
to get more to the realities. when he told speaker boehner that we don't have a spending problem, we most certainly have a spending problem. the debt has increased exponentially under this president. he started off on the wrong foot, i think, not just with republicans, but the democrats that are iffing to be up in the midterms. >> let me just make the counter argument that republicans might have started off on the wrong foot with him. there was a frontline documentary the other night which showed that on the night of his inauguration, they were all meeting downtown and having a planning session organized by frank luntz, and it was all of the main players -- newt gingrich and others were all there. just deciding how they were going to stop the president point by point. you can argue that's just political strategy, but he didn't have pashz on the other side of the aisle. >> i'm not familiar with the event that you're speaking of, but i'm pretty sure newt gingrich isn't in congress, nor is frank luntz then or now. >> fair enough. >> what i do remember specifically is eric cantor and the repu
. but we know that john boehner often has had trouble with his various plans. plan b most notoriously, getting them approved, accepted and passed by his own house republicans. and cantore made a very declarative statement today. there already immediately were grumblings that some house republicans will go along with this i'm not sure that democrats will, too. it remains to be seen whether, indeed, john boehner and cantore can get passed what they want to do. then again this is just another three-month extension. now the good news for the vix watchers out there is that this puts it past, you know, the coming showdowns on sequestration involving the budget which will all kind of happen in march. so this is one cliff that may not happen as two other cliffs are under way. three months from now, depending what happens with those cliffs and what happens with the economy, the house republicans, the tea partiers and the let's blow it to hell members of the republican caucus may not want to go along with this for another extension. the president has clearly won, steered them down, as he said h
successful that even john boehner will consider becoming a democrat. after all, we have a lot in common. he is a person of color. although not a color that appears in the natural world. leaders of the republican party, they call the passage of this bill armageddon. end of freedom as we know it. so after i sign the bill, i looked around to see if there were any asteroids falling or sudden cracks opening up in the earth. turned out it was a nice day. they said we needed to triple the border patrol. well, now they're going to say we need to quadruple the border patrol or they'll want a higher fence. maybe they will need a moat. maybe they want alligators in the moat. lots of ups, lots of downs, except for my approval ratings which have just gone down. but that's politics. it doesn't bother me. besides, i happen to know that my approval ratings are still very high in the country of my birth. he seems all-american, but if you heard his real middle name, tim hosni pawlenty, what a shame. governor romney has said that he hoped a similar version of this plan from last year would be introduced as a
boehner with the flags that flew over the capital during the inaugural ceremony. it seems like during some of the post inaugural address interviews, they did not give a hundred percent embrace. but they seem to feel the president was magnanimous and there was not the bipartisan -- the partisan bickering, at least not today. tomorrow is another day. >> right. we'll see when they start go earning. but the transition of power does matter. the fact that we transition in this way that people are -- i mean, my favorite two shot, so far, my favorite image, is that that included beyoncyonce stand near paul ryan and there was this vision of them together. this is fun. this is kind of american politics and culture, you know, crossing these lines. and will it hold? perhaps not. but for a moment, it is a recognition that we don't have violent military coups in this country. we have a peaceful transition of power. >> you also saw there chairman frank as the reference in terms of his speech where he talked about the struggles that had gone from selma to stone wall and all. on the program, myrlie evers,
today and are going to move forward. speak boehner kept his word. we're going to have that vote today. we have a -- i know one thing, i couldn't work any harder. i put hard and soul into this. and i feel confident we will have a passage of this touch needed relief. >> thank you, congressman grimm. we'll be right back. yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues... with three strains of good bacteria. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't go up due to your first accident, and new car replacement, where, if you total your new car, we give you the money for a new one. call... to talk to an insurance expert about everything else that comes standard with our base auto policy. and if you get into an accident and use one of our certified repair shops, your repairs are guaranteed for
% of americans approve of the job he's doing as president. only 26% approve of the republican party. john boehner has an 18% approval rating. the tea party, 9% approval rating. this is a movement, this is a party in retreat and that's why the president did what he did yesterday. >> let's look at that. best case scenario would be to have two strong parties and a great national conversation and great sense of balance. i understand how you could read the speech as i won, ha-ha, and also, could be seen as this is what the country is telling me. how do we get the other points of view in there. maybe perhaps -- this is the hard part, extract what i think is dying and what i think you think is dying, that is the extremist part of that. >> the extreme part of the republican party is in retreat and just as bill buckley chased john birchers out of the conservative movement in the 1960s, so, too, will these extremists be chased out of the mainstream of the republican party. they will evolve or they will die. it's that simple. i'm not so sure the president can say, katty kay, this is what the american people
, it is a difference, but look at the house. we have nancy pelosi as the leader, and although, boehner is the republican speaker, but all of us view nancy pelosi as the democratic speaker and look at the leader show has been. she is very strong, and very forceful, but she is still a le leader that brings everybody together. and boehner career clearly -- boehner clearly has been unable to do that. but ideology is different so you cannot just describe the women to behave in that way, so it is gender, but also ideology. >> and with the cross cut, mrs. edelman, what is the thing that you would ask the 113th congress to do relative to the policy immediately on children's poverty issues? >> we have to have a jobs program and we have to have the strong early childhood system that includes comprehensive child care to help people work and not sacrifice their children and we have to begin to break in and prevent and intervene early and karen has gotten something through to help foster care children, but we have to have a get a first rate quality system to foster children, and break this cycle of
he talked about. he wants the leaders to lead the party. you think about speaker boehner, when he publicly says i can't corral, i can't stop the birthers from talking the way they talk, that's just their opinion. and you hear people like john sununu, who i thought was a heavyweight republican for years, using terms -- why doesn't the president learn how to be an american? it's not just the one line, it's lots of lines. >> you're absolutely right because the leadership of the republican party as most people see it is the leadership in congress. it's john boehner and mitch mcconnell -- >> and priebus. >> and reince priebus, and if those people aren't realizing the demographic realities, aren't realizing that the party has to be a big tent party if it's ever going to win national elections again, then where goeth the gop? >> let me tell you -- you're laughing -- the weird thing is you're turning off black votes if people vote, but you're also turning out the electorate, alex. the giddy part of this is, as you once said a long time ago, frank rizzo in philly, who wasn't too popular am
boehner's doing and manages this, and there's a line there when someone said we may have to let them do a partial government shutdown just to let them get this out of their system before they go on to approve what needs to be done and i think, you know, the challenge of leadership is to tell the people who you are leading that what they want is not realistic or that it doesn't make sense. i think boehner's modus operandi is to do some sort of last-minute deal. i think that's part of the psychology here. that you let these people, you know, they don't want to approve a debt ceiling, didn't come here to approve it and before they'll do it, they have to do something that lets them get that energy out of their system. >> and unfortunately, that might be the best strategy that he actually has, but you know, overall in terms of the president's and democrats' approach, i think the president did a wonderful job and the democrats got a good deal in the fiscal cliff deal and the president's negotiating strategy of not negotiating on the debt ceiling has really put republicans in the corner where
't do it. >> if john boehner and mitch mcconnell think they can come up with a plan that somehow meets their criteria they set, they are free on go ahead and try. >> republicans still believe the president will blink and they will be able to meg officiate on the debt ceiling. you about want to find a way out of getting boxed in on the debt ceiling themselves, believing a fight over funding the government is a much better political fight for their party. here's congresswoman marsha blackburn yesterday. >> i think there is a way to avoid default. if it requires shutting down certain portions of the government, let's look at that. >> yesterday the president sounded almost resign to the idea a government shutdown is probably coming up. >> if the republicans in congress made a decision they want to shouldn't down the government in order to get their way, then they have the -- votes at least in the house of representatives probably to do that. i think that would be a mistake. and it would be profoundly damaging to our economy. >> once again, what the white house was trying to signal on debt
on the floor of the house and the senate. and speaker boehner's spokesperson said we'll be happy to look at any proposals that pass the senate. well, what did harry reid say last weekend about voting on any bills having to do with gun legislation? they are not going to vote on anything unless they know it can pass the house. here we are, stalemate. >> exactly. >> back to you, no, over to you. neither one of them -- and this is what makes the nra's bizarre decision that they did today, the risk -- right now, harry re reid's the best friend they've got, and if they figure out a way to alienate senate democrats who have carried their water before with the stunt they pulled today with this bizarre web ad, they are going to live to regret it long term. >> one other thing about the nra, wayne lapierre said in part, barack obama, joe biden and their gun ban allies want to bully you, strip you of your second amendment freedoms. i warned you that day is coming, now it's here. then a call for greater membership, which is exactly what's happening. nia malika, the battle is now joined, not a battle either
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